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Welcome to Two Brains One Bot. I'm Christy. I'm Ashley. How you doing?

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Great.

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Still loving the haircut?

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I do. I love it.

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Still same day.

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Same day? Same shirt. Don't we used to change our shirt? Speaking of shirts, sorry, that was like a lot of words at once.

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Your shirt is amazing. My sister-in-law gave it to me for my birthday.

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Love it.

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It says feral in 40. Because I'm 40 now. Yeah. I know it's a good one. It's so good. I love it. It's got like a it's got Jimothy on it. No.

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Yeah, Jimothy.

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It's not Jimothy.

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It's not Jimothy, but it's Jimothy's more agile cousin.

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He's dancing. It's a dancing raccoon. What does it say at the bottom? Um still digging through life's trash. That's a fair comment. Yeah. Yeah. Here we are. I'm feral and 40. It's just gonna be uh a life motto for me at this point.

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Yeah.

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Because why not? I don't who do who am I trying to impress?

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Also, this world is so unserious. It's so unsurious. Why do we need to be serious people anymore? More whimsy. We decided collectively more whimsy.

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Well, you and I went to our sweet friend's mother's memorial at that house, and it was the most whimsical house I've ever been to in my entire life. It changed my life.

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It was beautiful.

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Yeah. So just whimsy. Just add all the all the cute things. Don't be afraid.

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Yeah. I just the thing I loved most about it, it was very personalized, but it was also very like put together. I don't know if it's a good one.

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So we should probably so we should probably describe this house. So we went to this house for a memorial for this mother, our friend's mother. And this house had no bare walls. Every inch was just covered in a frame of a picture that meant something. But I loved how she but she had like a color that she liked. She liked blue, and so everything was blue.

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Yeah, like a blue frame.

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A blue frame.

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But it didn't look I know what everybody's thinking. It didn't look messy.

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It was so clean.

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It was so clean and put together.

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I don't even know how to describe it.

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But cozy and like I I know I've been trying to explain it to my husband because I'm like, I want to do this, and he's like, You're out of your freaking mind.

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They need to see it.

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I know. I don't even know. Yeah, and the way she had her Lego Lego displayed. Like it's it was just amazing. I just I don't know. It was definitely cozy and homey and not like these houses that you see that are very like sterile. Sterile and stage. My house is sterile.

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I think your house is sterile. My house is sterile. I need to add some whimsy to it.

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At least you have plants.

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I do have a plant.

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My mother-in-law brought she works at the um at the store that has like she works in like the floral department.

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Oh, that's all.

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And she brought me one and she's like, You're gonna keep this alive, and I'm like, sure I am. What do you mean? Do it!

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It's very nice. We can talk about it afterwards, but up I love plants. Like it's very fun to have like a situation, yeah.

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And something else to take care of.

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Yeah, yeah. But it's easy. I mean, it's not like you have to wipe its butt.

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Hey, if your kid shits in the yard, you don't have to wipe its butt either.

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Your kid did shit in my yard.

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Yep.

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True. Correct. Okay, so I need to tell you about something. And I I don't think I've told you about this.

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Okay.

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Or if I have, just pretend like I haven't.

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Okay.

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Um, but I don't think I did. So last weekend we went camping for Labor Day. We always go camping for Labor Day.

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Right?

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I swear on everything I saw a ghost.

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No way.

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Yes.

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Are you serious?

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Or something ghost adjacent.

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I love this so much.

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And I know how that sounds.

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No.

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And my spouse does not think I saw a ghost, but I disagree.

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Okay.

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I saw something. There's no other explanation. Okay. It's wrong. So again, we always go camping over Labor Day. To the same place. It's like a family time out. Why are you flirting with me?

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I love this so much.

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Time in. I am not flirting with you. Time out. No, time back in. Okay. So we always go to we go to this family campsite and uh or this family property, and it's a very like love, beloved property. We just call it the property. And we um towed our little trailer up there, and it's just in the middle of nowhere. It's like forest lands, okay? So now, you know I'm a vivid dreamer. Yes. So there were two incidences this night. Okay. This particular night. And then no other incidences, any other nights, but just this first night. So the weird, the first one was weird. So the first time I woke up and someone, I thought someone was standing over me. And so I immediately like I'm screaming, I'm lit like literally kicking in the air. And my husband's like, hey, you need to calm down because I'm screaming in the trailer. And thank you. And I and I like woke up, but I think the kicking like woke me up and I was like, okay, there's not nothing there. Whatever. Right. Okay. That was the first incidence. But then like later, I don't even know how much later, um, I woke up and I could see somebody, and they were like, probably like five feet away from me in my trailer. So we're in my trailer, me, my spouse, three kids. The two kiddos are um sleeping on like the bed and the table, and then the third kid is on the opposite end of the trailer. So I woke up and I could see something about five feet away from me that was like kind of going away from me. It is dark, but it's moving towards the opposite end of the trailer, and it was very faint, not solid, and it was like roughly the size of my daughter. But I so I was like, oh, it's her going to the bathroom, because that's like where the bathroom is on the opposite side of the trailer. But I looked at where she was, which she kind of sleeps at my feet, but on the the couch bed or whatever it's called. Um, and she was there. So I see her and I'm like, oh, and then I see my son and I was like, oh. And then at the opposite end of the trailer is my oldest son, but he is a giant at this point. Right. And this thing was shorter.

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Okay.

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Okay. And so I was like, that's a ghost. And so I like kind of wake up my husband and I was like, there is something here. There's something in the trailer. And he just immediately is like, There's nothing here. Like, and I don't even know if he like sat up or looked or anything.

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He's like, girl, go back to touch my face and go back to bed.

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Touch my face and go ground yourself and go back to bed. This one's mine. But there was something definitely there. And so I was like straining my eyes. And that's where I like very vividly remember is because with the first event, I did think I saw something, but then when I like kicked into like my spouse, like woke me up. I was like, oh, just air kicking. My B fam. There's nothing going on. But this time I was definitely awake and I was like straining my eyes, and it just kind of kept on getting further and further. Cause it's like, you know, dead ass dark in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere. And so, anyways, I fumble for my phone, I turn my light on, and there's nothing there. Which also, like, it was heading towards my son, and I was just like, Good luck.

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Well, he's a giant now, he'll be able to giant, he'll be able to squash it. Yeah.

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But I swear it was there. That's cool. Okay. So I laid back down and I like kind of kept opening like one one eye to like look, because I was scared, but I couldn't see anything but so surreal. And I just kept imagining like I'd close my eyes and then I'd be like, if you open your eyes right now, it might be right above you. But I didn't open my eyes, I just turned my back.

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So were you like afraid? Was it like an afraid feeling, or was it just like a oh, that's interesting?

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Afraid, for sure. For sure afraid. Um, but nothing happened, and it was just spooky as shit.

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Yeah, I like the thing standing over you though. Did you have like negative feelings about it?

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Yeah, I definitely had negative feelings about whatever was standing over me that was not standing over me because I karate kicked it away.

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Don't mess with Christy, she can kick ghosts.

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Guys, I got long legs and they kick and stretch. A kick and stretch.

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I like to kick and stretch.

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Yeah, no, but I just I it stuck with me. This event has stuck with me. So even like the next day, I was like thinking about it. Cause there was something there. Okay. It was otherworldly. I love this. Um, and my mind got racing, and I like, I'm like, who would this ghost have been? And don't get too excited. Don't get too excited because I have no idea still what it was. But to add some context to this story, oh god, you're gonna ruin my high. And I should tell you about where we were parked, and I I truly mean no disrespect when I describe this. Um, but like I mentioned, we were at some at the family property, so it's like private property. Um, and there's a big cabin on site where we could sleep, but like if there's a lot, there was a lot of people up for Labor Day, everybody goes up on Labor Day. Um, and so there's just not room really for us to sleep there. So it's nice. We bring up our trailer, we're the only ones with a trailer, so we bring up our trailer, and it is nice to kind of have our like little area separate. Right. Um, so we just park near the cabin. Totally lovely. We love it. You know, I love a trailer, right? I'm a campy girl, you know. But also on this property is a little memorial area for all our beloved fur babies. Oh and we happened to be parked right by that area, and so it just got me thinking like what if the ghost I saw was one of the dogs? But in human form.

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Okay.

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Like a human ghost version of one of the dogs.

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Yeah. So I have a question. Okay. Do you ponder or ever think about past lives? All the time. Yeah. So maybe it was like you're like you're saying, like, maybe it was a a human one of the doggos. Uh a human version of one of the doggos. Because it wasn't being scary, it was just kind of there. Well, that's why I asked is if like you had like a like a fear of it, like if it was giving off like intimidating vibes, if it was like there, like specifically to felt negative or well, in the dark, everybody's there to hurt me. Right, that's true.

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So, but like I said, it wasn't doing anything weird. Like the first event that I was hallucinating, that thing was like right over me.

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Listen, I believe you. You don't have to say you're hallucinating. I think it was real.

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Okay. So yeah, that's what's been circling in my mind all week long. That is like, I'm gonna be doing this, I'm gonna be doing this pod. That is so cool. And you know, I always joke about after I die, like I'm coming back as a beloved house cat. Like, you know, I'm getting ready for work and I'm like leaving for work, and maybe I'm tired or cold or whatever, and I see my cats just like laying in the sunlight, and I'm like, I'd give anything to be a house cat right now. Yeah, but so in my in my next life, I'll be a loved house cat. But it's like it just makes me think: are ghosts real? And if they are, are they people? Are they spirits? Could they be animals?

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Okay, girl.

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Are they just hanging out because they got unfinished business?

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I have, I don't know. I'm so witchy, and I we haven't really like got deep into like I don't know.

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You haven't shown your true colors.

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I I you haven't shown your true colors. I feel like I'm always talking about. I know you are, but you haven't really told me your thoughts about things. I'll tell you today. But maybe a little bit. I think I I think that you are way more in tune than you think you are. Your connections to like like your vivid dreams, your connections to like I don't know, like eclipses and that kind of stuff, like I think maybe your logical brain is blocking you from really fully realizing how like witchy you could be.

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But at night my guard comes down. Yeah, absolutely and it just my my nights go wild.

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Yeah, that's exactly, and I think you should tap into it a little more. Okay, I think you should meditate more.

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Well, oh yeah.

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I think you should really start trying to tap into it because I bet you anything. There's something there.

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Am I a witch? Yes, yes, but I will say, like, now that I feel like I've seen a ghost, I just think about them all the time. Yeah, yeah, a lot. But what makes people like what makes some people see the ghosts? That's what I'm curious about.

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You're more into I think uh well, some people call it the veil or whatever. I don't, I don't know, like it whatever people some people refer to it as dimensions and whatever. I think you just have a very unique ability to tap in or see past whatever is there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like more in tune with it.

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Yeah. But I will say it's hard to think that because I just I again am a vivid dreamer or I'm a vivid whatever, and I commonly wake up and think I see something, like, especially like just the orientation of my room, like I can see into my bathroom and where we hang our towels, like you know, like a towel if it's hanging, kind of looks like a a person.

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Yeah.

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So I oftentimes will wake up and be like, uh, and then I'm like, it's a towel. Ugh, it's a sweatshirt, yeah, you know, and so I oftentimes have to bring myself back to reality that way.

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But I don't know. But that's your logical brain trying to talk you out of it, man. I don't know, your ego trying to talk you out of it.

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I know. But I think there are some very reasonable explanations of why people see things that aren't truly there. By the end of this And I say that in quotes, aren't truly there.

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By the end of this spooky season, I'm going to convince you you're a witch. Okay. That's what I'm gonna do.

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What color witch? I'm a white witch. You're August is the white witch.

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Yep. Your kitchen witch for sure.

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So I looked online and obviously went to Reddit. You know, guys know I'm a Reddit. A Reddit bee. Um and it just a Reddit beehole. Yeah, no. You know what? Keep your episode to yourself, Ashley.

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Sorry.

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Prior week episode. Um, no, but it was saying, and this really stuck with me because it was like some people are just more open to the idea that there is ghosts and that type of stuff. And so if you are more open to that idea, it will present itself to you versus God bless it, my husband. He's like, You didn't see a ghost, and I was like, Yes, I did. I am I'm convinced I saw a ghost.

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I'm convinced you saw a ghost or a ghost like a ghost adjacent person. Knowing what I know about you, I think you saw something. I think you're way more in tune than you think you are.

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But again, like we're constantly told growing up, like what's real, what's not real, what's possible, what's impossible. And maybe that's a puts a limit on us of what we're willing to experience. Yeah. Or even what we're willing to notice.

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Yeah.

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And so I just need to unlock it.

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Do it.

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Because our brains are so powerful, like your mind can convince you of things, and it can also convince you out of things.

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And your mind can also make things happen.

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Yeah. Do you gotta see it to bel or believe it to believe it to see it? Or I don't know. Yeah, I think so. Whatever that thing is. And you know, like obviously, if you're like, oh, this isn't real, there's no such thing as ghosts, you're probably not gonna see ghosts. But we all just need to be like a little more open to the possibility that maybe things we don't understand are real, or I don't know. I was like, we just get to have experiences we can't explain.

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Yeah, it's always a science girly. And I think you still are a science girly. Yeah, I've had a little bit of witchy throughout me. Like I feel like there's two sides of me, but I'm very much leaning into my witchy side lately.

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And not forgetting about your science side.

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Yeah, and the thing that's fascinating about that is that podcast um by the I think her name is Maya Baelick. I don't know how to say it properly, I'm sorry. But she has a podcast called The Breakdown, and her and her boyfriend interview people who've had like near-death experiences, and she's a neuroscientist and they talk about like all sorts of it's so cool. It's so cool.

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I'm telling you, I I think we're closer to the these dimensions than we think. Yeah. Okay, speaking of dimensions, have you heard of oh shoot, what's the Avatar? Have you heard of Avatar?

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Have you ever seen that in 3D? No. Um sorry.

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Dark Matter. Have you heard of Dark Matter?

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Oh, I've seen the advertisements for it though.

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So it's a book and a series. And you should read the book first. Okay. Always, because we always read the book first.

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Can I listen to the book? That's easier for me.

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100%. When I say read, you can say you can listen.

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Okay.

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Um it's so good. And they I think this second season just started of Dark Matter. We just watched the first episode last night. It's so good. But it like, it's a thinker. It really is like I mean, not hard. I mean, but hard thinker. I don't know.

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Yeah. Oh, it's just something that like makes you think about stuff.

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It's crazy.

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There used to be a show on Hulu when Hulu was like in its infancy called The Booth at the End. It was a spooky show. And it was just this guy who sat in a diner, and these people would come and it would be like mid-story, and you're trying to figure out the whole time, but they would like confess things that they wanted to do.

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They're ghosts.

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And he would like tell them, I don't know, go look it up. It's called The Booth at the End. Okay. We'll have your husband find it for us because he's really good at finding things like that. Um it's creepy weird. I think I got cancelled, but it was really good. Yeah.

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He was sitting at a portal.

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Yeah. I think he was the bo. I mean, I don't know. Yeah. You never really find out, I guess. Yeah. So that was a bad recommendation, but I thought it was good.

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Anyways, yeah, so go watch Dark Matter and Booth at the End or whatever. Ashley just said. Okay. But all of this to say, for the last week I've been thinking about this ghost, but now I'm now I'm wondering. My my questioning has turned to what am I gonna do next time I see one? Because I'm gonna see a ghost again.

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You just make sure that it's there for like. No. Okay.

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I need I need a plan.

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I'm gonna tell you.

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Okay. Because I have some ideas.

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You make sure you just set up like energetic boundaries of saying, hey, you're only welcome here if you're here for my like highest good, highest vibration. You don't want dark stuff hanging around.

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You're gonna have to write that down on a note card for me. Yeah, I will. So I looked up like, what should I do if I see a ghost again? And there's like many, many like different schools of thought on this. Okay. First piece was, and I thought this was so stupid. Stop letting it bother you. Okay. Yeah. Well, I am at fear level midnight. Yeah, I guess it's midnight. Yeah. Threat level midnight. Threat level midnight. Um, like, hey, just like don't be scared of things. Okay, cool. Thank you. Why didn't I ever think to just tell myself not to be scared?

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Don't just don't be scared.

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I should also try that with spiders. Like, oh, stop being so scared about these guys.

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Yeah.

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Stupid spiders. So that was stupid. Next. Stupid recommendation. Another suggestion. Ask the ghost what it wants. Yeah. I'm going to say absolutely not on that one. I'm putting a hard pass on that one. If a spirit with boundary issues actually wants to talk to me, I don't think I'm going to be able to like stand there and like calmly be like, okay, tell me. Tell me more. Tell me more about what you need. Like in my mind, the thought of a ghost talking to me, what does it sound like? What does it say? All this stuff. Does it sound like? Do you know the um what comes to mind is you know on Hocus Pocus when that guy talks and he like cuts his mouth.

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Oh yeah.

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Because he has like the the threading, the threading, and he stucks the feathers. It talks and it's like dusty. That's what I envision when a ghost talks to me, and I'm like, no, no. And I just wonder if I talk to a ghost, do I become a post-life visitor? Is it a body switch, a body switch situation?

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I don't know.

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I don't want to find out, so no.

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I think it would be your own voice in your head. I don't think it would speak words. I think it would be your own voice in your head.

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So feel free to find out. I'm not going to.

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I would love to be as powerful of a witch as you are.

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No, I'm not gonna find out. Um, I did tell my friend this story um over the weekend, and she told me, according to her sister, you're supposed to tell the ghosty, go towards the light, you can leave. Like give her permission to leave. Yeah, because sometimes maybe it sometimes needs that. Maybe, I don't know. But that would be fine because it I'm not it like it doesn't have to respond to me, it just needs permission to leave. And then we like get a little unhinged. Um, another person on online on the Reddits suggested that I bully the ghost. Okay, which like I don't know, maybe I'm open to it if I'm not like peeing my pants, scared.

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Yeah. But like you look stupid or what?

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Like no, like apparently the idea is if you stop being afraid of what it is and start acting like it's not scary, almost kind of like Harry Potter when they have to. I don't know, what is that? The Dementors? Yeah, where they have to it No, I don't think it's the Dementors. Is it Dementors that suck your joy out? They have to like uh envision or is that just children?

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I don't know.

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They have to envision, they have to envision something being something silly, so it like cubs at them scary, oh yeah, and then they have to envision whatever it is being scary. I haven't watched Harry Potter in a bit, which tells me I need to do it. So I don't know, like exactly how would I bully a translucent bitch?

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I mean, I don't know. First of all, the laws of our universe are all about free will, so it really can't harm you unless you allow it to.

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Can it? I don't know, because in my at the time it feels like it can.

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Yeah.

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I don't know. So maybe you start with like rating its haunting. Like maybe I'm gonna give that three out of ten. The timing was bad. I was asleep and you kind of came in hot.

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Yeah, like I would do that shit again. Come during the daytime.

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And I but I say that like your timing was bad. All the while, like my my heart has fallen out of my butt. I'm not even scared. This is this water was already here. This pea was already here.

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I'm gonna take this blanket now.

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All over your head. Um I could make fun of its appearance. Yeah. But I have to be like witty about it and be able to see it. It's kind of sometimes like faint.

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Also, that seems like the the bad move. I think someone's setting you up there for like I know bad and your bad juju. Put good out. Put good out. Say hey, like if you're here to like hang out and tell me things and be good, fine. But otherwise, you're not welcome here.

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I think you could maybe like be like, okay, well, like if you're gonna live here, like start contributing. Like either pay me rent or I don't know, clean them toilets. Seriously. What are you doing here? Yeah. Like rent-free? Not in this economy. Not in this economy. I need you to like if you're gonna scare the shit out of me in the middle of the night, you need to do something for me. Yeah. I want this isn't for free.

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Towels out of the dryer when I get out of the shower.

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My screams, my screams do not fuel your canisters. Mike Wazowski.

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Classic.

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Classic. Um, or maybe the keys just make the ghost feel like it's wasting your time. Like, oh, are you trying to scare me because I got kids? I've seen scarier things before. Maybe. Have you ever woken up at 4 a.m.? Try that. Scary.

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Have you ever had to be alone with your own thoughts?

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Wow.

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I don't think bullying ghosts or entities is a good idea. Yeah, probably not. No. You're gonna get a poltergeist.

SPEAKER_02 24:17

You gotta be quick on your toes. And in the middle of the night, I'm not quick on my toes. I am still just like I'm going through the rationale of like, that's not this child, that's not this child, definitely not that child. Ghost. Okay. Um so much. Anyways, then there was the next piece, which really ties into our science and laboratory backgrounds. It's apparently ghosts don't like cameras and scientific analysis and measurements, you know, so which is why they evade us at all times. Yeah. So if you start documenting everything and basically turn your house into a paranormal research facility, the ghosts will avoid you. So so simple, right? Like, who doesn't have all this already set up? So next time you see a ghost, just like get your camera, like already have your cameras ready, the recording equipment, the you know, the the temperature sensors, all that kind of stuff. Just ready to go.

SPEAKER_01 25:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:11

It's easy.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

There's a podcast that I love talk about all the time. It's called Morbid. They do listener tells episodes, and they have a ghost box set up, and it's become like their third character on the podcast. He says things throughout they've named him. His name's like Nicholas, and they just so fun. It's so like it's he just like chimes in funny things and they like try to work it into the episode. It's really funny.

SPEAKER_02 25:37

Love it. So, but for real, slow.

SPEAKER_01 25:40

Okay, for real.

SPEAKER_02 25:42

After thinking about this all week, I do feel like I need an actual plan. Okay, like this is all fun and games, but I need a plan.

SPEAKER_01 25:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 25:52

Because apparently, if you see a ghost, there is the opinions about what you should do. So I think we need to establish our official T Bob ghost protocol.

SPEAKER_01 26:01

Okay. I'm ready. Can you have it outlined already?

SPEAKER_02 26:04

I do.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 26:05

Step one.

SPEAKER_01 26:06

Shit your pants.

SPEAKER_02 26:08

Oh, that's that's step that's the pre-planning.

SPEAKER_01 26:12

Point five.

SPEAKER_02 26:12

Point five. Uh or no, no, no. That's step one, point five. Because we gotta see the ghost first. We don't want to just be shitting our pants. Without. No, I don't. Okay. So confirm it's actually a ghost. Okay. So step one, like Christy wakes up. I see something that I think is a ghost. Is it my the towel in the bathroom? Is it just a shadow? Is it a mirror? Is it a child? Yeah, exactly. A raccoon. It's not the sleep paralysis demon you've apparently adopted. Have you seen those videos, by the way, on TikTok? If I send them to you.

SPEAKER_01 26:46

The funny sleep paralysis demons? Yeah. Like it's like laying on them playing like the flute.

SPEAKER_02 26:51

Well, like it's like the guy that's like, I gotta work tonight, I gotta go do like my sleep paralysis things. I don't think I've seen that one. He's like got like a big funny nose. Anyways, so step one, after we determine it's not a raccoon, it's not our child, it's not the towel, we know it's a ghost.

SPEAKER_01 27:07

Okay, got it.

SPEAKER_02 27:08

So there's an optional step 1.5, which is shitting your pants. Shitting your pants. But that's optional. Optional. It's the rest of the plan doesn't hinder on whether or not that happens. Okay. Okay. Step two, determine if it's friendly. Maybe smile at it and see if it smiles back.

SPEAKER_01 27:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 27:27

Because we're not talking to it.

SPEAKER_01 27:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 27:29

Yeah. Okay. Because again, step three, we're not asking what it wants because I've already established if a person from the before time speaks to me, I'm not joining the ghost social committee. Yeah. I'm no.

SPEAKER_01 27:41

That's not what I'm here for. I got too many social committees that I'm a part of.

SPEAKER_02 27:45

Okay. Step four. If we're feeling, if we're feeling frisky, if we're feeling confident, only if we're feeling confident.

SPEAKER_01 27:53

Are we gonna fuck this ghost? What is happening? You said frisky.

SPEAKER_02 27:57

No, I mean like we're feeling confident. Frisky, whatever uh not frisky. We're gonna attempt to bully it. I'm not bullying a ghost. So that one's an optional, too. Okay. Yeah. So only if we're feeling confident, like we've established it's not a a towel. We think it's friendly. Okay. We haven't talked to it. If you're feeling, you haven't shit your pants. Maybe it's a if you haven't shit your pants yet. Okay. Then you can feel like you can bully it. But if you have shit your pants, you are not on the higher ground. You're not on higher ground. Okay. Step five. Deploy cameras and scientific equipment. So that would be very easy to just like grab your cell phone and like click it on and be like, gotcha bitch. Okay. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 28:37

Gotcha, bitch.

SPEAKER_02 28:38

Or let me get hold on. Let me get out my thermal reader. Stop. Where's my EMF? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 28:46

Your whole bedside drawer is just full of ghost hunting equipment.

SPEAKER_02 28:51

Are these toys? No, these are these.

SPEAKER_01 28:54

These are mom's toys. Narr.

SPEAKER_02 28:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 29:00

Your kids go to school and be like, my mom has toys at her bedside table and it's just EMF equipment.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

No, I'm cutting all of that. My children don't need to hear that. Okay. Ashley's off her rocker. She's had one too many diet coke. Good stuff. Um, step six. Okay. If none of that has worked, we're just gonna leave. Or scream.

SPEAKER_01 29:26

You don't have to leave. Scream. To your space.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

Well, I'm not gonna leave because I'm paralyzed.

SPEAKER_01 29:30

You're gonna say, get out of here. You're not welcome here.

SPEAKER_02 29:33

You're not welcome here. And it will leave. Go towards the light and scream and wake up your spouse, and then they can bring you back to reality.

SPEAKER_01 29:40

Do some karate kicks.

SPEAKER_02 29:41

Allegedly, bring you back to reality because we're already in reality. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I like it. So that's our T Bob protocol. We're gonna confirm it's actually a ghost, determine if it's friendly. We're not gonna ask it what it wants. We will attempt to bully if we are feeling confident. Okay. But with the optional. We're gonna deploy the camera and the scientific equipment that we all have readily available.

SPEAKER_01 30:03

In our bedside drawers.

SPEAKER_02 30:04

Yep. And then if none of that works, you leave the situation. Stop, drop, and roll. Stop, drop, okay. Because they're floating, so you could probably roll underneath them.

SPEAKER_01 30:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 30:15

Finally use that training from elementary. Stop, drop, and roll.

SPEAKER_01 30:18

I actually just watched Practical Magic last night.

SPEAKER_02 30:21

Oh, my few movies.

SPEAKER_01 30:23

There's a number two coming out.

SPEAKER_02 30:25

Oh. Or it's already uh I read the first book. It was really good. I should watch the movie. Oh, the movie is good.

SPEAKER_01 30:32

I've never read the book. I should read the book. The movie is really good.

SPEAKER_02 30:37

Okay. I will put that on my Sandra Bullock. I'm going on an airplane soon and I will see if my I bet it'll be on there.

SPEAKER_01 30:46

I bet it'll be on there because it the number two just came out. So like I bet they're like promoting it.

SPEAKER_02 30:52

Gosh, there's just so much stuff I have to do. I have to practice guitar. I have to embroider. I have to employ whimsy. I have to scare away ghosts. Calm with these ghost ghosty babies. Like, when am I gonna like take a nap? I don't know. Okay. That's another that's a later baby. Later baby. I love a later baby. Okay, so let's let's let's finish this out with a would you rather ghost edition. Okay. Okay. Would you rather see a ghost once and never know who it was, or know exactly who it was and you see him every week?

SPEAKER_01 31:32

Know exactly who it was and see him every week.

SPEAKER_02 31:35

I would almost like flip that. I kind of wish I would have written that backwards. Like seen a ghost once that you know who it is, or see the ghost that you don't know but weekly. And so every week you're like, who the who the ph are you? Yeah. So let's re-ask that. Would you rather see the ghost once that you know or somebody you don't know often?

SPEAKER_01 31:56

I think somebody that I know.

SPEAKER_02 31:57

Okay, I think so too. Because then it just answers all the questions.

SPEAKER_01 32:00

Well, I and like it likely it would be someone that you love. So you'd be I mean, unless I guess like Michael Jackson's showing up like, he Why me? Like Hello, sir. Can I help you?

SPEAKER_02 32:14

Go towards the light. Okay. Would you rather have a ghost follow you everywhere? Around town, school, work, whatever, or only haunt you at your house. Do you want him in your outside life or your inside life?

SPEAKER_01 32:30

Outside life. Outside life.

SPEAKER_02 32:33

I think outside life too, because then if it gets too bad, I'll just be like, I'm never leaving this house again.

SPEAKER_01 32:37

It's my safe space. Get out of here. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:39

Okay. Would you rather hear it, ghost but never see it? Or see it but never hear it. I know which one I want. See but never hear. Yeah, see but never hear. So that's creepy.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

I don't know, because I'd want to ask it questions. I would want to know, like, hey.

SPEAKER_02 32:55

We're not asking it questions because we don't want to do a body switch. A body switch.

SPEAKER_01 32:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 33:00

Yeah. Okay. Sounds good. Let us know if if that really happens, anybody. They're not gonna tell us if it really happened. Okay. Would you rather have a ghost try to communicate with you or just silently stare at you?

SPEAKER_01 33:16

Oh, communicate with me.

SPEAKER_02 33:17

I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_01 33:19

Communication is the key to success.

SPEAKER_02 33:20

I guess what is the look they're giving me? Is it like a smile? Is it like nothing? Is it RBF?

SPEAKER_01 33:28

We're only inviting things that are there for our highest good. So it's gonna be there for our highest good.

SPEAKER_02 33:34

I need to put that in the T Bob Ghost Protocol steps. Are you here for my greater good? Yeah. Just nod because I don't want to hear your voice. Okay. Would you rather discover that your house is haunted or that you're the one who's haunting somebody else's house?

SPEAKER_01 33:51

I'm gonna be haunting someone else's house for sure. Who do you think? I don't know. You'll find out. Pick anybody.

SPEAKER_02 33:57

Okay. That's kind of fun. It would be fun. Yeah, I would definitely definitely want to be haunting somebody else.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

Yeah. Just scares the shit out of someone every single day. You know what? We can do that now.

SPEAKER_02 34:09

Yeah, true. Okay, last one. Would you rather be haunted by a human ghost or a dog ghost?

SPEAKER_01 34:16

A dog would be fun. That would be fun.

SPEAKER_02 34:18

Because it'd be like nice. Yeah. Unless it's like aggressive. Nah. They won't be aggressive. Nah. Anyways, that's the end of my story. I don't think I'm dead. I think I'm here still. I didn't talk to the ghost. I'll find out. If I have any more um encounters, I will let you guys know. Alright. Well, all this is telling me that we just need to stay human. Stay curious. And don't let the robots win.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

Bye.